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x.iso
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Unread post by x.iso » 04 Nov 2017, 22:44

While testing Grid feature I've thought of one thing that could improve live set experience when using one workspace for all tracks in set.
While I can map and use 1 to 0 keys on keyboard to activate looped grid sections that would work for one track, but not for entire set.

A simple solution would be to have a snapshot manager like in racks and patches, so I could switch to a different grid setup and use same range of sections with same mappings. Would be cool to also be able to drag certain preset of grid itself into one of it's sections to automatically jump to next track when it's appropriate in timeline.

One other thing for improvement: make shift+drag patch/rack to also assign current preset of whatever you're dragging. I can understand that it's not default behaviour since there might be no preset yet, so you don't want it no initialize, or just if you forgot to save preset it will reset the changes with this after playback.
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Unread post by senso » 05 Nov 2017, 13:57

hi,
1) that's why we've implemented navigation button in the grid, especially the 'continue' so we don't need learn 'section's loops'. Did you try it?
The idea of grid presets, is good, but I need time to improve the concept.

2)shift+drag: the question is how many percent of grid elements are concerned by this suggestion? The problem is not to create it but more to be sure it is used. So improve the manual (actually 2000 pages), make another video, etc.

Generally, we try to keep Usine as simple as possible and avoid complex short cuts for too specific commands which can be done in 2 clicks.

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Unread post by x.iso » 05 Nov 2017, 14:50

Yes, I've used navigation buttons too, and they work well for live sets with linear arrangement, but with shuffling up sections you can play same tracks differently depending on how sequencers are set up. I can however simply toggle the sections by finger instead, so it's not so troublesome as I don't need to map everything to remote controls. But I think hosting many tracks as presets in grid is generally a good idea.

about shift+drag, yes I've forgot that you can actually drag presets separately into the grid, but you have to drag them from the list. Maybe simplify that by allowing to drag the snapshot panel itself as current preset into the grid?
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Unread post by senso » 05 Nov 2017, 15:06

Yes, I've used navigation buttons too, and they work well for live sets with linear arrangement, but with shuffling up sections you can play same tracks differently depending on how sequencers are set up. I can however simply toggle the sections by finger instead, so it's not so troublesome as I don't need to map everything to remote controls. But I think hosting many tracks as presets in grid is generally a good idea.
- you can transform the channel of incoming MIDI messages according the current section number so have a single control
- create binds according the current section number and bind "loops"
- create MIDI messages according the current section number and make midi learns with
about shift+drag, yes I've forgot that you can actually drag presets separately into the grid, but you have
to drag them from the list. Maybe simplify that by allowing to drag the snapshot panel itself as current preset into the grid?
will be implemented in the 148.

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Unread post by x.iso » 05 Nov 2017, 15:38

Thanks!
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